AutoTrader Paypal Scam

scamHer name is allegedly Maria or Marie Murrend.  Her email is mariemurrend65@gmail.com.   Her cell phone/text number is 210-819-4320.   Although she also uses 307-248-5809 and  740-738-2890.   No matter the number, Marie is a scammer.   She scans through AutoTrader and Car.com ads looking for scam victim.  Her tool of choice:  Paypal.     Her name changes almost monthly…..it could be a guy or a woman.  However, beware of Marie and her scammer friends because they can rip you off big-time.

It starts with a text responding to your auto sales ad; she asks for pictures of the car’s engine.   She gives you her email address and invites you to send the pictures.    Your first mistake is that you respond…..but that’s an understandable mistake.    She then sends you a message that looks something like this:

Thanks for the mail. I am interested in buying the vehicle and I hope
everything is in perfect condition. I’m ready to pay your asking price
but not cash in person because I’m currently in a conference and calls
are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is
PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the
PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you
don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just
log onto www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase
as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I’m pretty very
sure he will love it, he’s an handy man, so if there is anything that
need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a
mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your
account and he will handle the documentations and changing of
ownership on my behalf.  I’ll look forward to hearing from you with
the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as
soon as possible.
Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
Full name:
Zip code for pickup:
Firm Price:
Maria

Your second big mistake is that you respond to her and give her a PayPal account that you set up.    She’ll claim to make a deposit to it and you’ll get a “receipt” from PayPal verifying the payment.   But is was never made.  The receipt is a fake.   Or, she’ll make a payment with a bad check and, once PayPal catches on, it’ll cancel the transaction.   Meanwhile, she’s got your car and title has already been transferred, so will you likely never get the car back without filing a lawsuit.     Don’t take our word for it,  AutoTrader is warning its customers to never sell their car using PayPal.    Just do a search for Marie’s name and you’ll find hundreds of stories about people who got similar pitches from similar scammers seeking similar high-end goods like cars and furniture.     Marie and her friends appear to be very busy and they’ve been running this racket for a few years, now.    Don’t get ensnared in Marie’s scammy web.    If you are selling a car or any kind of expensive household good,  require that an interested buyer always meets you and views the vehicle in person.  Never hand over the vehicle keys until your bank has confirmed the full value of the vehicle has cleared into your bank account.

There are two ways in which the PayPal scam works.  First, the buyer claims he can only pay via PayPal. Don’t have a PayPal account? No problem, he says. He’ll send you an email with a link so you can set one up. But the link likely will send you to a fake PayPal site where your bank info will be outright stolen.  Second probability; the buyer sends you real money through a real PayPal account, and you ship him the car. Then you find out that the account belongs to someone else.   You have to return the money to them and you’ve lost your car.   And remember, PayPal’s Seller Protection doesn’t apply to items picked up locally or in person. To qualify for Seller Protection, whatever you’re selling must be a physical, tangible item that can be shipped and you must ship to the address on the Transaction Details page — and you must have proof of shipment.  If you’ve been scammed, contact PayPal and ask them to open an investigation, and then file a complaint with the FTC and your local police department.

Finally, here’s what AutoTrader had to say about the Marie/Maria’s message, posted above:

The message you provided us is a fraudulent response by a group of known scam artists overseas.  They have an automated system set up to send out a Text message and/or emails to anyone that lists items online (vehicles and other items across various sites).  The scam is a variation on the Certified Check scam seen years ago.  They’ve updated the scam to include online payment systems now.  In this case they would send a fake payment notification claiming to be from Paypal, and Paypal would not only falsely confirm that the money was transferred, but it would advise you to wire the shipping or other fee to a fake company set up.  In the case of vehicles listed online the emails would say “The Vehicle” and be non-specific, just as if you listed another item online (such as a computer or furniture set) the emails would say “The Item”, because this is an automated system being used.  They have been reported to law enforcement and the information you’ve sent us has been forwarded to those authorities as well.  They use this information to narrow their searches down when tracking their activity.

 

312 replies
  1. Joe
    Joe says:

    Just had a Pat Berger p.bergerrrrrr@gmail.com try and pull the ol “Ill pay full price I’m buying this for my dad” routine! Said he he worked HP and wanted use PayPal of course. Said his delivery service would take care of the title.. lol.. Thanks for posting!

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  2. Monica Sharrock
    Monica Sharrock says:

    Got a message around 4:30 a.m. last night from the email gomezwilsonn9@gmail.com. The number is 701.369.2345, and 9 other numbers were in the same group message, all from area codes of large cities across the U.S. The email read nearly identical to the one posted here. What is nearly as frustrating as the scammers though is how they are actually getting our information. When I looked at my ad traffic around 8 a.m., it said my page had 0 views. It wasn’t even live at 4:30 this morning. If that’s the case, how did they even get my number? When I went to report the incident on Autotrader’s scam report, I kept trying and trying to send the email via their form, but it never would actually send. I may sound paranoid, but I’m learning more and more to listen to my gut on things and that things may not be as far fetched as they seem. Is it possible that Autotrader somehow works with these guys, that they don’t want to know about the scamming? How else are these scammers able to get a phone number before the ad is even posted. Seems weird to me. If it seems weird, it usually is.

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  3. Jonathan Lampert
    Jonathan Lampert says:

    Thank you all for taking the time to post these. I almost got taken. My text was from Joel McCarthy26@gmail.com. Phone (302) 314-5660. Same basic format, except he said he’s in the army. Otherwise, it was for his Dad, would send the money through PayPal, arranging for someone to pick up the car, etc.

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  4. Al
    Al says:

    Got same message from Ken Saint, saying he lives in san francisco and has a phone number (902) 500-0837.

    Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to their web and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.
    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:
    Your Cell phone

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  5. Dave R.
    Dave R. says:

    Here’s his latest scam name: Ken Saint: kensaint014@gmail.com
    Here’s his phone number (North Dakota): 701-203-8907
    Here’s his latest story:
    “Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to their web and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.
    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:
    Your Cell phone”

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  6. Michael
    Michael says:

    Got the Ken Saint txt message to my phone from a phone number is PE, Canada. They asked for more pics to be sent to kensaint014@gmail.com which did send then i got the infamous im a software engineer for HO biying for my dad email wanting to pay through paypal. Sent a response saying not interested and goodluck on the gift for your dad!

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  7. Peter Ober
    Peter Ober says:

    Same exact email. Wants the car for his Dad’s birthday. In a rush. Works for HP as software engineer. Will pay full price. Etc

    Thanks for the heads up.

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  8. Shawn
    Shawn says:

    Auto Trader world wide is the biggest fraudulent website around.

    I send them the fraudulent ads over a& over. I give them my email so they can explain why they let their website to be home of the most fraudulent activity on the internet.

    They NEVER remove the ads or reply.

    I live in Canada and the only people that advertise on their site is dealers so I guess as long as they can get idiot dealerships posting ads they continue business as usual, leaving up all fraudulent activity.

    DO NOT USE AUTOTRADER. there are much better places to advertise with much less fraud and real buyers and sellers.

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  9. Dave
    Dave says:

    From Saint Ken:

    Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to their web and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.
    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:
    Your Cell phone

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  10. Matt
    Matt says:

    Received Text: “Hello Seller, my name is Michael, am interested in your vehicle on AutoTrader, please reply to my email – michaelalan5050@gmail.com with the close up image of the engine before I proceed. Thank you. Michael.”

    Phone number listed is 620-392-0621

    Notified AUTOTRADER and they are on it. Notified IC3 and they told me they are on the verge of nabbing these guys and gals. Notified San Diego Sheriffs Office and they put me through to their Internet Crimes Division, they are going to use triangulation from cell phone towers to locate scammers and arrest them.

    If you get one of these E-mails please report it – the more instances of complaints the better.

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  11. Jacob
    Jacob says:

    Received this message:
    Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :

    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:

    Your Cell phone #:

    Thank you

    Marc

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  12. Jennifer
    Jennifer says:

    Bruce Marcus same email (sj2233301@gmail.com) but with this phone 928-288-5750 for the text. I just putting on here for google searchers. Hopefully no one falls for this.

    Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:
    Your Cell phone #:

    Thank you
    Marc

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  13. Rob
    Rob says:

    Received Text: “Hello Seller, my name is Michael, am interested in your vehicle on AutoTrader, please reply to my email – michaelalan5050@gmail.com with the close up image of the engine before I proceed. Thank you. Michael.”

    Obviously, it is a scam. I was suspicious.

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  14. L'Angelo Mysterioso
    L'Angelo Mysterioso says:

    Looks like Marie’s new last name is Finn, and she’s become a software engineer for HP. Immediate full-price offer for car, with payment through PayPal. Only the supposed PayPal transfer was for $1,100 above full price. It would have been my job to use MoneyGram to send the extra $1,100 to whoever was going to pick up the car.

    There were four emails purportedly from PayPal, using that wonderful phrase “We Sincerely Seek Your Esteemed Co-operation In Order To Get The Total Fund Released To Your Account.”

    PayPal is also apparently now writing delightful run-on sentences such as “This is to let you know that we are holding this payment due to the amount of money involved and being the first payment into your PayPal account, it is mandatory you know that the fund has been completely deducted from Marie Finn’s account and will become available in your account balance immediately the fund is released from our payment verification team desk,therefore be rest assured that the total fund is safe with us and Marie Finn has no access to it any more.”

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  15. stanley ward
    stanley ward says:

    Just got an email from jackjolie01@outlook.com same as Dan. I’m in Bermuda. Not even in the US. Email claims she is an oceanographer buying the car for her retired military husband, and will be shipping from my country after their wonderful vacation her. Signs up because tourist can drive cars in Bermuda.

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  16. Lor
    Lor says:

    Yesterday I received a text from Marcus 312-585-2510 asking for close up photo of engine to be emailed to sj2233301@gmail.com. Today, he responded with an email stating he wanted to buy it for his dad and to open a pay pal account. In addition, I received 2 more texts today. One from 701-658-7873 with email tracybeachh0@gmail.com stating the pick-up was lovely and to send pics of the odometer, dashboard and seat. The other from 256-669-0684 asking if the vehicle is still for sale and to kindly reply back to Sgtkenlash900@gmail.com. Glad I saw this article and all of these comments.

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  17. Scott
    Scott says:

    Got a text from 845-440-1237

    “listed vehicle on autotrader will be lovely send me the odometer, dashboard, and seat pics to tracybeachh0@gmail.com

    Before I saw this I sent her the email with what was requested. Glad I read this, I wont be communicating with this person anymore. Annoying people trying to scam.

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  18. Jim O'Brien
    Jim O'Brien says:

    Wow, there people are persistent!! They must be catching someone off guard. Tracy Beach texted using the same scenario. Sad that this is the state of our world now!

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    • Chris
      Chris says:

      I also got a text message (from 5303494726) just moments ago from a Tracy Beach in response to my Autotrader.com ad. They asked me to send pictures of the Seat and Dashboard (why capitalize?) to the email address: Tracybeachh0@gmail.com. I am 2000 miles away from the area code of their phone number (530) 349-4726. These scams always request an email rather than a text reply or phone call.

      Thanks for the forum so that we can “discover” and report suspected scammers.

      I will only deal with car buyers who can meet me in person in a public location and who are willing to close the deal at their bank (or at the teller counter at my bank), said bank distributing cash or cashiers check to me in exchange for signed, notarized title and keys to buyer, along with simple bill of sale.

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  19. Betsey A Freyberger
    Betsey A Freyberger says:

    Got the same text and e-mail from Marcus. Replied back that I would like his phone number because it is not that I do not trust him but that there are scams out there and just wanted to talk to him to make sure everything was above board. Wished I had checked his name out and got the page before I sent the pics and replied back to his e-mail Also, got a text from Tracy Beach asking for pictures of the seats and dash. Only reply to her will be that I know it is a scam and I will be reporting her!!! Thanks

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  20. Erik
    Erik says:

    Thanks for posting everyone. Tina Hand appears to be scamming…

    ———————————-
    Thanks for the fast reply i’m impressed with the condition as mentioned and i am ready to move on with the payment and pick up arrangement ASAP and i want you to know that i can only conclude this transaction only via PayPal.Because i am unable to send check or make bank transfer to you because i don’t have access to cash where i am, that is the reason why i selected PayPal (www.paypal.com) as a mode of payment because PayPal is the best online payment, so both of us could be on the safer side.I have my integrity to protect. I’m honest and don`t cheat people out of their money. You will receive the money in your account first before it will be picked up from you.I will be looking forward to this details for me to proceed with the payment
    Your PayPal e-Mail Address and full name:
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:
    Your Cell phone #:

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  21. Mark
    Mark says:

    Just had emails from both Zack Ogden and Jolie Jackson after posting a truck for sale on AutoTrader.com. they have altered their email as below:
    Thanks for the prompt reply,i am interested and i will like to buy it ASAP.
    Are you the first owner?
    What is your reason for selling it?
    What is the condition ?
    What is the lowest you can go on the price?
    I am buying it as a gift for my husband that just retired in the Military.I’m an oceanographer and due to the nature of my work, phone calls is restricted. I am currently offshore.

    You need not worry yourself about how it will get to him there in US as I have a contact of shipping company there that will be handling the pick up and the paper work.

    Regards

    then after answering the questions I got this response:
    Thanks for the fast reply i’m impressed with the amazing condition as mentioned and i am ready to move on with the payment and pick up arrangement ASAP and i want you to know that i can only conclude this transaction only via PayPal because i don’t have the means to do online money transfer to you and i have been cheated via check and bank transfer before, that is the reason why i selected PayPal (www.paypal.com) as a mode of payment because PayPal is the best online payment, so both of us could be on the safer side. I’m a woman of integrity. I’m honest and don`t cheat people out of their money. You will receive the money in your account first before it will be picked up from you. Awaiting your decision because i really need to pursue this buy sincerely.I will be looking forward your PayPal account details as listed below:

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address and full name:
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:
    Your Cell phone #:

    Thanks

    why doesn’t AutoTrader go after these people?!!

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  22. Jeff H
    Jeff H says:

    Same here: Listed my Audi on AutoTrader.com 11/18/15 and got a text next morning from Marcus Bruce (413-461-9058 – Massachusetts) to email him a photo of engine to officialmarcus247@gmail.com. Same form letter regarding contract worker for HP, buying car for his dad, and can only pay via PayPal. My first suspicion was the poor grammar and lowsy punctuation. Once I responded back explaining PayPal’s 2.9% fee and for him to just wire the money straight to my bank, he didn’t respond.

    Also got a text from Tracy Beach 865-630-4385 – Knoxville, TN saying the car is “lovely” (strange adjective for a sports car) and to send photos of seats and dashboard to tracybeach00@gmail.con. Never heard back after sending photos.

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  23. Josh d
    Josh d says:

    This was the email today to my autotrader add: STAY AWAY FROM this scam; hard to believe autotrader cannot prevent this from reoccurring:

    On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Marcus Bruce wrote:

    Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:
    Your Cell phone #:

    Thank you
    Marc

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  24. Tammy
    Tammy says:

    I posted my car on Auto Trader and within a day I was contacted by Bruce Marcus or Marcus Bruce with the same scam mentioned above. Then I received another scam from Ron Kaileni and Bart Mallory asking for VIN numbers along with the same old scam again. I did contact Auto Trader and spoke with Brittany who acted as if this never happened before, DUH!! The FBI should definitely catch up to these guys and put them away. Auto Trader should send out updates to all their subscribers informing them of the scams with names and telephones numbers to BEWARE OF. I would never use PayPal as a transaction because they create fake receipts, CASH ONLY SELLER!!

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  25. DMX
    DMX says:

    Received the same messages from joliejackson@outlook.com and this infamous zack. Other recent scam emails came from mikejose92@outlook.com and tinahand2011@outlook.com, all these came within 3 days after listing on autotrader and followed the same paypal formula. I’ve just been trying to waste of much of their time going back and forth with them, without giving any type of actual financial info, hoping the time they’re wasting with me is taking away time they’d be spending to actually scam someone.

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  26. SHL
    SHL says:

    I posted my elderly father’s antique car on Auto Trader Classics on Saturday, October 3rd. The very next day I received a “Vehicle Lead from AutoTraderClassics.com” from “zackolden@gmail.com” and just now received another “lead” from ATC from the email listed in the comment above, “joliejackson@outlook.com”. (BTW I googled this latest email address and it’s apparently so new that it isn’t coming up as fraudulent yet. It seems that today, October 8th, may be the first day for inquiries from that particular fraudulent email address.) Two fraudulent inquiries in five days and no legit responses. How do I trust who to respond to? How will I know if/when a response is legit?

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    • Tracie
      Tracie says:

      SHL – You will know when its genuine, More than likely someone will call you and ask to see the vehicle.
      Just be very aware, Stick to cash on arrival, or bankers check and you will be fine. Treat every inquiry as a possible Hack, and you will be OK. If you are not sure, don’t share any info at all, Genuine buyers will understand your caution, and will work with you to prove they are REAL. Good Luck.

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  27. Tracie
    Tracie says:

    My Second Scam attempt in 2 weeks, I am now very wary about offers, No mention of Pay Pal this time, but it screams FRAUD. Look out for Jolie.jackson@outlook.com. Here is what the email said…..BTW, needs story to be consistent, is her son in the US or Canada….BE careful people.

    Thanks for the prompt reply,i am interested in buying it.I will like to know the lowest price for the car and i want you to get back to me with more pictures and its current condition because I can’t come over to inspect it. I am buying it as a gift for my son that just graduated in the US.
    I am a Royal Marine Corps in the UK and due to the nature of my work, phone calls is restricted. It was my son that check your advert and sent you a message to contact me (his mum) on my email address because I am currently offshore.
    You need not worry yourself about how it will get to him there in Canada as I have a contact of shipping company there that will be handling the pick up and the paper work.
    Regards Jolie.

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  28. Chris J
    Chris J says:

    Received two of these text messages with a request to reply to an e-mail address:

    Good ol’ Marc is still at it with his Ronkealani@gmail.com address

    AND

    chrisman108@gmail.com asking for my firm price and vehicles present condition.. All things that were in the ad.

    I swear, I thought Craigslist was bad, but this may actually be worse. Much more of this and I’ll pull down my AutoTrader ad and call it good.

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  29. Peter Fournier
    Peter Fournier says:

    Here’s an “offer” I got today on a boat I listed on Boat Trader:

    “Thanks for getting back to me regarding my text…I hope it is in good condition? and there wont be any cause of disappointment if i purchase it from you? I want to buy it for my dad and I am ready to pay the asking price. I’m a Marine Engineer and am currently on sea right now which is strictly no calls. My Mode of payment is PayPal because i don’t have access to my bank account online, but i have it attached to my PayPal account. Since I’m requesting this transaction to be done via PayPal, I will be responsible for all the PayPal fees/charges on this transaction, if you don’t have an account with PayPal, it’s pretty easy, safe and secure to open one. Just log on to http://www.paypal.com I hope we can make this transaction as fast as possible. Less I forgot, I have a Mover that will come for the pick up once payment is cleared in your PayPal account and they will be handling the everything for me, as I look forward to hearing from you with your PayPal information as requested below.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Full name:
    Firm Price:
    Address for pick up:

    Many Thanks

    Maria Ellis”

    I’ve had two other “texts”, which appear to be from a website that lets people send “texts” which appear to be from a cell phone, but actually are not.

    Besides these three scam attempts, I’ve had no responses to my Boat Trader ad. Although I did not bite on these scams, I already feel ripped off. Trader Publications is netting me nothing but scammers. Waste of money.

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  30. Austin
    Austin says:

    I got a text message less than 12 hours from posting my ad. Here’s what it says:

    FROM:
    786-322-3166

    TEXT MESSAGE:
    do you still have the vehicle listed on autotrader for sale?shoot me the engine view pics to my email please thomasjuliet50@gmail.com

    My first warning should have been that the make or model of my car wasn’t mentioned — just “the vehicle”. But I didn’t think of that until I googled the email address and found this web page.

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  31. David
    David says:

    Received a text from someone representing themselves as Thomas Juliet – thomasjuliet50@gmail.com from phone number 405-293-5610 (a free google voice number) in response to my Acura TL autotrader ad. asked for photo of engine compartment to be sent to his gmail address. Clearly part of the scam. If the FBI would work with someone to bust this ring, it would be very good for the private car sale business. Just put a GPS tracker on a car and let it get picked up… then follow it back to the hornets nest and pounce!

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  32. Marcelles
    Marcelles says:

    I got the same text message. phone number was 701-353-3275

    I already knew something was up when they sent the request to email it, through text. Wish I could do something to help. I hate what these people do, and I am shocked that they can get away with it this easily.

    I am simply not going to respond, but if someone in law enforcement wants to do so on my behalf they are welcome to contact me.

    I was also contacted by someone who sent me a link to get a car history report, and said he would buy my car ( from Autotrader) if I sent him a copy of the report. I told him that I would only do so if he actually came to see the car, he said he was working.

    I wont fall for it.. but they keep trying.

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  33. Bob
    Bob says:

    I got the same contact from Marcus Bruce, wanting to buy my car. Here is his e-mail

    “Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:
    Your Cell phone #:

    Thank you
    Marc”

    I had answered his email and then searched the web and found this site. Going to send to Auto trader and Pay pal.

    Bob

    Reply
  34. Win
    Win says:

    Before my ad went live this came. The Ad Manager Activity Reporting page shows that my ad has never been viewed.

    ——-
    Thanks for your response,Do you have extra keys? and When is the last
    date you serviced it? are you the original owner, i need answers to my
    question because I’m ready to pay but not cash in person because I’m
    currently on a business trip and my only quickest payment option is
    PayPal, its safe fast and secured and i will be responsible for the
    PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you
    don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just
    log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase
    as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my wife that just give
    birth, and I’m pretty very sure she will love it. I have a mover that
    will come for the pick up once payment clears in your paypal account
    and moved into your bank account, The mover will handle the
    documentations on my behalf. I’ll look forward to reading from you
    with the information below so that I can make the payment today.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your Final Asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:

    Terry.

    The reply address is hsta40@gmail.com.

    Reply
  35. Kurt
    Kurt says:

    I just got this today from officialmarcus247@gmail.com. Clearly fraud. There was no way I was going to sell a car via pay pal (already been swindled that way on smaller items with ebay) but it was nice to find this website to confirm directly that this was fraud.

    Hi Marc –

    I cannot accept Paypal for this transaction. If you are interested in the car and we agree on reasonable terms you can deposit the funds into my chase account or wire the money to my account.

    Best,

    Kurt

    From: Marcus Bruce [mailto:officialmarcus247@gmail.com]
    Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 7:04 AM
    To: Kurt Steckling
    Subject: Re: Audi A7

    Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:
    Your Cell phone #:

    Thank you
    Marc

    Reply
  36. Paul
    Paul says:

    WOW! I just put my ad on Autotrader last night and I got not one, but two scammers in less than 24 hours! Marcus Bruce from HP and a Thomas Juliet, both asking for pictures of the engine bay! Marcus just sent me an e-mail EXACTLY the same as others have received, about buying it for his dad as a birthday gift and using PayPal! Just wanted to let you all know the same is alive and well! Unbelievable!

    Reply
  37. Bob
    Bob says:

    701-353-3766 is the number I received for this scam. Juliet Thomas was the name used. Too good to be true it probably isn’t true was my thinking. Paypal didn’t help much but googled and found the scam!

    Reply
  38. John
    John says:

    Hi ,
    I`ve just received below message from Robert Golshan
    robertcontracts62@outlook.com

    Thanks for the fast reply i’m impressed with the amazing pictures attached and the condition as mentioned and i am ready to move on with the payment and pick up arrangement ASAP and i want you to know that i can only conclude this transaction only via PayPal.Because i am unable to send check or make bank transfer to you because i don’t have access to cash where i am, that is the reason why i selected PayPal (www.paypal.com) as a mode of payment because PayPal is the best online payment, so both of us could be on the safer side.I have my integrity to protect. I’m honest and don`t cheat people out of their money. You will receive the money in your account first before it will be picked up from you.I will be looking forward to this details for me to proceed with the payment
    Your PayPal e-Mail Address and full name:
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup:
    Your Cell phone #:

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  39. David
    David says:

    Is now going by John Bruce phone number 504-302-3834 but wants you to call using phone number
    802-483-3981
    Here’s the text so far…
    +18024833981: Hello! Do you still have the vehicle for sale on AUTOTRADER? please reply to my email(johnbruce667@gmail.com) with your firm price and its present condition…TY

    Reply
  40. Sandra lopez
    Sandra lopez says:

    Thank you all. I got the same message from Juliet Thomas this morning. I knew something was wrong. Called PayPal they really couldn’t help. Google the name and found this web site. Thanks again. What a shame auto trader can do something about this.

    Reply
  41. Rudy Augsburger
    Rudy Augsburger says:

    Can’t f’n believe it, I’m glad I googled this, the same scammers !

    Original SMS came from: +1-260-676-7392

    Begin forwarded message:

    From: Juliet Thomas
    Subject: Re: 2012 Audi TTS
    Date: August 6, 2015 at 3:03:07 PM EDT
    To: Augsburger Rudy

    Hi,

    Thanks for the picture,I hope the vehicle is in great condition, Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle?. I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m currently in a conference and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I’m pretty very sure he will love it, he’s an handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf. I’ll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as soon as possible.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Full name:
    Zip code for pickup:
    Firm Price

    Reply
  42. LARRY M
    LARRY M says:

    Just got our second email first from zackolden@gmail.com who wanted a 1975 corvette for his wife who had just given birth. REALLY, second from a new name Razaqtunde5@gmail.com again wanted close up pictures, are we the original owners can’t come in person will send a mover, BLAH BLAH BLAH, and of course pay pal account information. Local police can’t locate they say probably out of the country. ‘SELLER BEWARE”

    Reply
  43. Steve Davis
    Steve Davis says:

    Same pitch from Marcus Bruce… claiming to be a HP employee.. well I worked for HP and I asked him to send me his Employee ID No. so that I could look him up.

    … no more emails from Bruce.

    I think the FBI should setup a sting for these people and follow the cars & titles. Someone has to pay the folks who transport the cars, someone has to collect the titles, someone has to take posession of the vehicles.

    Reply
  44. Jacob Hahn
    Jacob Hahn says:

    Just got the exact same scam email from a Juliet Thomas as follows below. Thanks for posting this. It felt like a scam, but I thought Paypal was a secure payment method so I wasn’t sure. I get scams like this anytime I post anything up for sale on line (autotrader, craigslist, etc). It sucks that they won’t attempt to catch these scum bags unless a crime has been committed.

    “Hi,

    Thanks for the picture,I hope the vehicle is in great condition, Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle?. I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m currently in a conference and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I’m pretty very sure he will love it, he’s an handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf. I’ll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as soon as possible.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :

    Full name:

    Zip code for pickup:

    Firm Price”

    Reply
  45. mark
    mark says:

    Just told Marcus that I was sorry but my car was stolen I left the keys in the car, silly me, in hopes of getting the car back in some sort of good shape, (it was only stolen afterall) I am continuing to run my ad on AutoTrader, I bought the “list it till it sales” plan, so eventually I will get it back and maybe we can catch your dads next birthday, by the way wish your dad a happy birthday and sorry for the inconvenience, but tell him I said he’s got a wonderful son that would buy his dad a little white girls car convertible from BMW without ever seeing it in person off Autotrader, wow what a good guy you are.

    Reply
    • admin
      admin says:

      Glad to see that you maintain your humor, even when dealing with these reprobate scammers. That’s a good policy. Thanks for the comment, Mark.

      Reply
  46. Will Quinn
    Will Quinn says:

    We had a similar experience as everyone above (officialmarcus247@gmail.com)… At first it seemed like a real buyer until we did a little research.

    Reply
    • Michelle Markey
      Michelle Markey says:

      So glad I googled this guy!!

      From: Marcus Bruce
      Date: Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:44 AM

      Subject: Re: engine shot

      Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

      Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
      Your last asking price:
      Your Zip code for pickup:
      Your Cell phone #:

      Thank you
      Marc

      Reply
      • Jim Penrod
        Jim Penrod says:

        I received the identical email this am, after a text yesterday asking for more pictures of the engine. This came from “Marcus Bruce ”
        “Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

        Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
        Your last asking price:
        Your Zip code for pickup:
        Your Cell phone #:

        Thank you
        Marc

        Reply
  47. MacKenzie Patterson
    MacKenzie Patterson says:

    Be Aware Now “Marcus Bruce” ronkealani@gmail.com

    Quote:
    Marcus Bruce
    5:30 AM (3 hours ago)

    to me
    I observe that some of the messages i got from Paypal regarding the payment was found in my Junk/Spam mail,please try and check your email Junk/Spam mail and inbox very well in case you are missing any message from Paypal.so you can understand the process.

    Thank you
    Marc

    Reply
  48. Bill W
    Bill W says:

    They’re still at it. This time it’s JULIET THOMAS . I first got a text message asking for a photo of the engine. After I sent that I got the following email reply:

    Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle?. I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m currently in a conference and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I’m pretty very sure he will love it, he’s an handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf. I’ll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as
    soon as possible.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Full name:
    Zip code for pickup:
    Firm Price

    After I replied with the requested information “her” reply was:

    Great I will transfer the money now

    This should be fun.

    Reply
    • admin
      admin says:

      While we don’t recommend engaging with the scammers, we appreciate your informing us about their process and sharing what you learn. Please proceed cautiously.

      Reply
  49. jose leao
    jose leao says:

    hello thanks for sharing

    same here … already in small poor portugal !! hahahahah

    hapend with me with the following mane in OLX.pt tanyalee1943

    and Tanya Lee by mail

    very pleased for the info here shared!

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  50. Jim S.
    Jim S. says:

    Received a text from (310)596-3829 asking if the vehicle was still for sale and to send an additional pic, struck me odd so I googled the email address for this person named “Juliet” tjuliet06@gmail.com Obviously related to the scammers above so I thought I would post it. Stay aware! Jim S.

    Reply
    • Bruce
      Bruce says:

      Just saw the same thing – from JULIET THOMAS

      Good to know that googling “scam & email addr works”

      Here’s the full email just so that it’ll get picked up by googles indexer:

      Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle?. I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m currently in a conference and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I’m pretty very sure he will love it, he’s an handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf. I’ll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as
      soon as possible.

      Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
      Full name:
      Zip code for pickup:
      Firm Price

      Reply
  51. Donna S.
    Donna S. says:

    Same thing just happened to me with my Auto Trader Ad. I got a message from Zack Olden. He wants the car. Do I have extra keys? Last service date. Wants my pp Email address and other info. It’s really sad that people have to stoop to these levels.

    Reply
  52. Mike K
    Mike K says:

    Posted my car on Autotrader today, got the text on my phone for “engine pictures” and sent them. I then received the following email.

    The email was from:
    johnbruce667@gmail.com

    Telephone #:
    (567) 297-7055

    Thanks for the pics u sent, My name is John Bruce,i am buying the car as a birthday gift
    for dad and i am at sea at the moment as i am a marine engineer and
    due to the nature of my work,phone calls making and visiting of
    website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert
    and send you an email regarding it. i want to know your last asking price, its present condition cus I really want the car to be a
    surprise for dad so i wont let him know anything about the car until
    it gets delivered to him , i am sure he will be more than happy with
    the car.I insisted on paypal because i dont have access to my bank
    account online as i dont have internet banking, but i can pay from my
    paypal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it, i will need you
    to give me your paypal email address so i can make the payments asap
    for the car and pls if you dont have paypal account yet, it is very
    easy to set up, go to http://www.paypal.com. and get it set up , after you
    have set it up i will only need the e-mail address you use for
    registration with paypal so as to put the money through.I have a pick
    up agent that will come and pick the car up after i have made the
    payment.Thanks

    Reply
  53. Jeff H
    Jeff H says:

    “do u still have ur vehicle listed on autotrader,shoot me the engine view to my email tjuliet06@gmail.com . Juliet” from 702-276-7788 followed up by the email asking for engine pictures, did I have extra keys, a spare tire, where did I get the service done, any transmission repairs, any rust on vehicle, she is in a conference, will pay with paypal, will have the vehicle picked up, is in a hurry because she is buying it for her father. Juliett Thomas offers to pay full asking price via PayPal. I got a second text within minutes from 717-707-8557, Tanyalee1943@outlook.com …. same text about extra keys, spare tires, and rust on vehicle… SCAMMERS

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  54. Joe Deasy
    Joe Deasy says:

    Same story…
    zackolden@gmail.com
    +14124281212
    ( 4124281212 )

    Bought an ad at kbb.com which included a simultaneous posting on autotrader.com

    Within hours, “Zack” wants me to send him pictures of the car.
    I’ve got 15 pictures posted + a link to a youtube video.

    I got two other suspicious messages from my posting, also within a couple hours. Found both numbers listed as scammers on other websites:

    +13234387969
    3234387969
    +17025126454
    7025126454

    So far I got 3 inquiries, all scams.
    Maybe craigslist would be a safer place to advertise.
    Definitely would not recommend kbb or autotrader to anyone who wants to sell a used car.

    Keys:
    Scam
    412-428-1212
    323-438-7969
    702-512-6454
    (412) 428-1212
    (323) 438-7969
    (702) 512-6454
    Scammer
    kbb.com
    autortrader.com
    scam

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  55. Chad Ellis
    Chad Ellis says:

    Sent the pics to Zack Olden, then realized when I got the email that something wasn’t right! Sent them a text back saying I was a retired ATF agent and wanted to meet them in person to show the car. The 412-428-1212 number should be used by everyone on here to inundate them with texts! When you call the number, it says it is a texting only number…wow, didn’t know there was such a thing.

    Reply
  56. Sandy
    Sandy says:

    Thank you guys for taking the time to post this scam artist.

    “email me pics of your vehicle on autotrader website. Im interested in buying.my email is zackolden@gmail.com

    It came from (412) 428-1212

    Reply
  57. Brian
    Brian says:

    Add this number to the list: 617-934-6065. Exact same M.O. I believed it was a scam instantly but, just to be sure, I googled the email address (mlana3033@gmail.com) provided in the text and was only able to find this site. Name used: “Maria”.

    Reply
    • Sal
      Sal says:

      Same story – I also got a TXT from this “Maria” seeking engine pics – which makes no sense to me – why would you need to get a pic of the engine?? Really?

      Reply
      • admin
        admin says:

        It’s the scammers way of hooking you in. If you provide something to them (like a picture), they think that psychologically you are more committed to the transaction. Sadly, they are probably correct.

        Reply
  58. ChuckG
    ChuckG says:

    Another new one: Phone # 201 824-2749

    Why would you text someone to email you back in this situation? Warning bells!

    “Do you still have the vehicle listed on Autotrader for sale, If yes, Reply me via email to chrelnel09@gmail.com

    Reply
  59. Glenn
    Glenn says:

    Listed my car yesterday (6/18) and got a text today from “Maria” at 201-987-5639. ” do u still have ur vehicle listed on autotrader, would appreciate if you can send me the engine view to my email mlana3033@gmail.com. Maria” Was suspicious of the (201) number which I know is New Jersey. When I did a reverse cellphone lookup, it showed as a “landline”, which seemed bizarre that someone would be contacting me from a landline in NJ. Thanks for this post that saved me from wasting my time.

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  60. Mike
    Mike says:

    “Zack Olden” is still in action using a “French texting only number” (412-428-1212). Just received a text requesting additional photos to be sent to zackolden@gmail.com. Scammer is still looking for opportunities to take advantage of car sellers. Had posted my ad on autotrader.com. Glad I googled and this thread came up!

    Reply
  61. K. Sica
    K. Sica says:

    Listed my car in autotrader.com
    “Mark Thompson” was the scammers name. Same April…”do you have extra keys? Does it have a spare?blah! blah! blah!
    Thanks to a healthy distrust I hold for anonymous strangers, and this posting Mark, or Maria, or Zac, whoever or whatever they are… They won’ see one dime of my money!!! Keep warning the world people. 🙂

    Reply
  62. Don
    Don says:

    Both ROBERT and MARC hit me with similar Scam texts today only hours after spending $165 for Autotraders service. I sent all information to Autotrader (FraudWatch@AutoTrader.com). In my notification I suggested AutoTrader take an Active Role in stopping this behavior, including offering us customers incurring these Fraud issues with complimentary PRIVACY SHIELD (normally a $15 charge) to convince us they are concerned, wish to protect their customers, and are diligently working the issue.

    I for one don’t need to spend good money for a service that brings me nothing but scam artists as a result. I can go to Other Websites, and local newspapers to spend my money if this is the case.

    BUYERS BEWARE!!!!

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  63. Jose
    Jose says:

    “Am so much interested in the vehicle and can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this Vehicle as a Birthday gift for my brother? Do you have the title and how long have you owned it, as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m a software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff, so i cant handle this in person. My only means of payment is through PayPal because i believe is safe, fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have a paypal account, its pretty easy to open one, Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as my brother’s birthday is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me. I look forward to hear from you with the information below to proceed with the Payment thanks. I will also need your contact to discuss this better on the phone thanks” *actual e-mail sent by a Ron Roberts yesterday* (774)204-9159 is the number this pos used to text me 2 days ago. Hopefully this ring of lying, thieving sacks of shit get dealt with real soon!!

    Reply
  64. Phil
    Phil says:

    I just received the engine pic request text from 240-245-6600 with the email tjulliet005@gmail.com off my cars.com ad. Thank you for this post, it was very helpful. I also received a similar request and email from 407-307-2899 debbieledet1989@outlook.com Another scammer. These people work the numbers and I’m sure they get 1 out of 100 who fall for their crap

    Reply
  65. Jeffrey Janek
    Jeffrey Janek says:

    My car was posted on Auto Trader this weekend. I received a text this morning asking for engine pictures. The number is 240-245-6600 and the e mail is also tjuliet005@gmail.com. I reached this web site by googling the e mail address. Thanks for the heads-up. The scammer is now going by Juliet and the number is connected to a landline in Maryland.

    Reply
    • Jose
      Jose says:

      I’ve just got done reading more of the comments here and it seems that these scammers, whether working as a group or individually, send out there e-mails or texts to customers of autotrader/cars EVEN BEFORE their respective ads go live. Does that mean that they have inside information on listings or that autotrader/cars may even be hacked by these turdballs? Shouldn’t autotrader be upfront with it’s customers and specifically warn potential customers of it’s website about THESE scumbags? Not just a general warning? Seems the scammers get our email addresses and phone numbers with little or no problem. I just posted my ad on Tuesday and the that same day this bastard Ron Roberts was already trying to scam me. Autotrader will be getting a phone call from me tomorrow.

      Reply
  66. shantima
    shantima says:

    My husband just got the same scam from a person calling himself Marc Bruce wanting to buy a car as a birthday gift for his dad and asking for a Pay Pal address. Thank you for this article! It helped to convince my husband that it is a scam.

    Reply
  67. Patrick T.
    Patrick T. says:

    I got the S.O.S. from Zack as the rest of you. It has to be an inside job as to how fast they get the info as I received the texts prior to my info being posted on the A.T. website. Should be an F.B.I. investigation since it is an Interstate theft ring.

    Reply
  68. Brian
    Brian says:

    Just received the same email and text. This time it was from (845) 580-5695 and the email address is tjuliet005@gmail.com. Within an hour of listing my vehicle for sale on Autotrader.com this idiot tries the scam.

    Reply
  69. Lou
    Lou says:

    We got emails from Zack Olden yesterday and today. Luckily I was suspicious and didn’t set anything up or click on their link. I did respond to his emails before I saw these warnings though. Same email scam as the others…I’m on Holiday and my wife just gave birth. The email address they are using is still zackolden@gmail.com.

    Reply
  70. Tim Gaskill
    Tim Gaskill says:

    I received a text message from Zack Olden today requesting that I email him my AutoTrader ad website link to his email zackolden@gmail.com because he was only able to copy my phone number from his friend’s cell phone. I checked this website and noticed the reference to Zack and quickly responded that the car was sold.

    Reply
  71. Sally Asquith
    Sally Asquith says:

    Same exact message from David Murrend just came in here. I posted on Autotrader last night. The scam is on (continues)!

    Reply
  72. Ray Shipley
    Ray Shipley says:

    we just got this offer but the name is David Murrend with the phone number 612-814-8196:

    Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle? I’m ready to pay your asking price and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one, Just log onto http://www.PayPal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying the vehicle for my dad as a birthday surprise and I’m very sure he will love this vehicle, his a mechanic and a handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up and title transfer with a notarized letter from Attorney once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me. I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Full name:
    Pickup address:
    Firm Price:

    Thanks

    Reply
  73. Anita Conard
    Anita Conard says:

    Just got the same exact scam from Zack Olden yesterday and today he wanted me to pay the shipper from the PayPal account that he said that the money had been transferred from. Wife had just had a baby and her birthday was coming up and could only pay from PayPal. I did not fall for it, but really do feel bad for all the people out there that would pay him what he wants. Can’t anything be done about this guy? Looks as if there were quite of few people who fell for his scam. You would think that PayPal would bring legal action against this guy for using their name in his scam. Hard to believe nothing can legally be done until he scams the wrong person, like a law enforcement officer.

    Reply
  74. Jorge G Miami
    Jorge G Miami says:

    I received the same email with edits for the situation. It came for Zack Olden from zackolden@gmail.com:

    “I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m
    currently on Holiday trip,My only quickest payment option is PayPal,
    its safe fast and secured and i will be responsible for the PayPal
    transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t
    have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto
    http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as
    possible? As I am buying it for my wife that just give birth, and I’m
    pretty very sure she will love it. I have a mover that will come for
    the pick up once payment clears in your paypal account and moved into
    your bank account, The mover will handle the documentations and
    changing of ownership on my behalf. I’ll look forward to hearing from
    you with the information below so that I can make the payment this
    today.
    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Phone # linked with PayPal:
    Full name:
    Zip code for pickup:

    Zack”

    Beware of this scam!!

    Reply
  75. Sam Isaac
    Sam Isaac says:

    I just posted my car for sale on this morning, it is not live yet…. But I received this text this afternoon
    “I am interested in the Vehicle you posted on Autotrader, i will want you to send me the engine pictures to Ronroberts793@gmail.com. Before i can proceed -thanks Ron”

    Reply
  76. Brenda Kroll
    Brenda Kroll says:

    Same scam this morning from David. Thank goodness I googled Pay pal scams. His text was word for word as the Internet.

    Reply
  77. Definitely a scam
    Definitely a scam says:

    Got a txt this morning asking to email engine pictures to “ronroberts793@gmail.com”. Obviously a scammer. Stay away.

    Reply
  78. Sam
    Sam says:

    Hey! I just got one from David Murrend. After reading all these posts, its pretty obvious that it is a scam. Instead of calling this man out, I suggested that I cash out my transaction before my car is picked up – and he said yes! I’m trying to wrap my little brain around this concept of how he’ll still scam me.. Does anyone know how it would work after that?

    Reply
    • admin
      admin says:

      Sounds like he’s related to Maria Murrend. We can assure you, that you’d never see the PayPal payment — they’d cancel it as soon as they picked up your car.

      Reply
  79. ihateRon
    ihateRon says:

    I got a similar message from a “Ron Robinson” and then a second from a “-David”

    This makes me not want to use Autotrader anymore

    Reply
  80. Jose
    Jose says:

    I got a buyer of a Car asking to pay via PayPal. The car is in Costa Rica, I offer the option of an International Wire Transfer that will even charge less than the 3.4% PayPal charges over the total car price, but still the buyer was focused on using PayPal.

    What happens if as the seller, I accept PayPal payment, then withdraw the money, then remove any associated bank account, credit or debit card with the PayPal account, and further more close the PayPal account. After I retire the money from the bank and have it cash, and deposit somewhere else in another bank of another person; then we proceed to close the deal, do the legal transfer of the car to the new owner and give him/her the car keys.

    Following that process, is there a way for the buyer or PayPal to claim back the money?

    Reply
    • admin
      admin says:

      The buyer/scammer in this scenario will cancel the PayPal transaction as soon as they take delivery of the car and will resist the proposal that you are making of holding off on delivery until you’ve cashed out the PayPal transaction.   We recommend against your using PayPal for a car purchase transaction.  It’s always tricky trying out “outscam” a scammer.  It can be done, but it is a high risk transaction.  

      Reply
      • Jose
        Jose says:

        Thanks for the quick reply, I will proceed to cancel the invoice and force for an International Wire Transfer either that way or no deal. And yes that other way could be difficult to PayPal to claim back the money, but I don't pretend to fight PayPal or beign scammed by the buyer.

        Reply
  81. Michelle
    Michelle says:

    Listed on Autotrader and received text from ronroberts793@gmail.com wanting engine pictures. There were pictures on my ad which I text back stating that fact. Was not going to email to this person. Phone number 774-204-9159. Received another text from ronkealani@gmail.com wanting the same thing but this was from a different number 432-242-7755. Then I looked on this site. What nerve of people!

    Reply
  82. Fred Pradels
    Fred Pradels says:

    I listed a vehicle with AutoTrader last week and got a reply from Julliett Thomas.

    The scam is now using the e-mail address juliettthomas00@gmail.com. Same dialogue asking for engine pictures, did I have extra keys, a spare tire, where did I get the service done, any transmission repairs, any rust on vehicle, she is in a conference, will pay with paypal, will have the vehicle picked up, is in a hurry because she is buying it for her father. Juliett Thomas offers to pay full asking price. She tells you if you do not have paypal you can sign up at http://www.paypal.com

    Reply
  83. Dor
    Dor says:

    Same thing here!!!  Just posted on autotrader and 1 day later, ZACK OLDEN is contacting me like he contacted how many people above me???  Wants my car for his pregnant wife, will send someone to get it- really???  Number was 918-490-8839…  Same ridiculous questions.. spare key… records…  

    Reply
  84. Jim p
    Jim p says:

    Same thing happened to me today….Ron Ronbert793.   I got suspicous with the PayPal thing and one google…there it is.  I need that program to send that cell number a text message every minute!  Ech…losers. 

    Reply
  85. bobby
    bobby says:

    These scammers aren't going to quit.  Just posed my live ad on autotrader and the first 3 inquires were zack olden and ron roberts793.  It felt like i won the lottery selling my car that fast for my full asking price.  Woke up this morning and read all their fake paypal messages they sent me to find out i was being played.  I wish autotrader.com would link this site to theirs.  I just paid 75 bucks to get screwed with for the next 8 weeks.  Thanks autotrader

    Reply
  86. Debra
    Debra says:

    Thanks for the warning. I just posted my car for sale on Autotrader and got phone texts today from 774-204-9159 asking to send engine pics to ronroberts793@gmail.com and another from 405-384-7393 asking to send pics to zackolden01@gmail.com.  I had never sold a car online before and sure glad I found this website.  I knew the text was strange, but I didn't know for sure until I saw the postings.

    Reply
  87. kim
    kim says:

    Hi All,

    I just received the same scam, word for word, from Ron Roberts about a car I have posted on Autotrader.com. His email was the same as others mentioned above, Ronroberts793@gmail.com, but the phone number was new:

    774-204-9159.

    Seller Beware!

    Reply
  88. JC
    JC says:

    Same thing for me. Wow, this person is relentless. My message came from the number763-301-8461 and email dj2500043@gmail.com. Said her name was Dorothy Jackson.
    Here is what she wrote:

    Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle?. I'm ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I'm currently in a conference and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don't have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I'm pretty very sure he will love it, he's an handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf.  I'll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as soon as possible.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :

    Full name:

    Zip code for pickup:

    Firm Price

    Reply
  89. Brian
    Brian says:

    Dorothy Jackson

    dj2500043@gmail.com

    971-203-7133

    Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle?. I'm ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I'm currently in a conference and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don't have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I'm pretty very sure he will love it, he's an handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf.  I'll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as soon as possible.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :

    Full name:

    Zip code for pickup:

    Firm Price

    Reply
  90. Jeff R
    Jeff R says:

    774-204-9159 asking about engine pics. ronroberts793@gmail.com

    I am interested in the Vehicle you posted on Autotrader, i will want you to send me the engine pictures to Ronroberts793@gmail.com. Before i can proceed. thanks… Ron

    Yeah, luckily he says things that normal people would never say so it's easier to pick up on… but

    I can't believe they are still trying this… They must still have plenty of people falling for this garbage.  It's annoying and ridiculous.  

    Reply
  91. EuroSnob
    EuroSnob says:

    Same as several of the comments above.., just received today, e-mail is below FYI

     

    I'm ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I'm
    currently on Holiday trip,My only quickest payment option is PayPal,
    its safe fast and secured and i will be responsible for the PayPal
    transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don't
    have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto
    http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as
    possible? As I am buying it for my wife that just give birth, and I'm
    pretty very sure she will love it. I have a mover that will come for
    the pick up once payment clears in your paypal account and moved into
    your bank account, The mover will handle the documentations and
    changing of ownership on my behalf. I'll look forward to hearing from
    you with the information below so that I can make the payment this
    today.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Phone # linked with PayPal:
    Full name:
    Zip code for pickup:

    zackolden
     

    Reply
  92. DTJax
    DTJax says:

    Received the same email from the scammer

    Do you have the extra keys?:
    Do you have the spare tire?:
    Where did you get your car serviced?:
    When is the last date you service it?:
    Have you ever had any transmission repairs?:
    And Is there any rust on the body?:
    Are you the original owner?:
    How much do you have in mind to sell it last?:

    Get back to me with answers to my questions and i will make my final
    conclusion and get back to you.

    zackolden

    Reply
  93. CA
    CA says:

    NOW IT LOOKS LIKE ZACK IS VERY DEMANDING, LOL
    THIS IS WHAT HE WROTE:

    zack Olden zackolden@gmail.com

    zack Olden
    To
    me
    Today at 10:48 AM
    Do you have the extra keys?:
    Do you have the spare tire?:
    Where did you get your car serviced?:
    When is the last date you service it?:
    Have you ever had any transmission repairs?:
    And Is there any rust on the body?:
    Are you the original owner?:
    How much do you have in mind to sell it last?:

    Get back to me with answers to my questions and i will make my final
    conclusion and get back to you.

    zackolden

    Reply
  94. CA
    CA says:

    ronroberts793@gmail.com

    zackolden@gmail.com

    THEIR NEW EMAILS,. do not use PAYPAL.
    CASH ONLY.

    Ron Roberts
    To
    me
    Today at 8:53 AM
    Am so much interested in the vehicle and can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this Vehicle as a Birthday gift for my brother? Do you have the title for the vehicle and how long have you owned it, as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as my brother’s birthday is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below to proceed with the Payment thanks. I will also need your contact to discus this better on the phone

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup

    Reply
  95. badbird
    badbird says:

    I almost forgot the names they used…
    Patrick from NV…702~747~3800
    Dorthy Jackson WA…360~276~6551
    No name on the last number from PA.

    Reply
  96. badbird
    badbird says:

    I listed my truck on cars.com and have received 3 of these texts.
    702-747-3800…NV
    360-276-6551…WA
    814-320-3899…PA
    Two wanted to pay with paypal and the other one I told Cash only. They do not want to talk to me only text or email. The emails are…
    dj2500027@gmail.com…(this email is exactly like the one above about th conference comments)
    andreae.philip0@gmail.com
    They are want to buy site unseen and Fast…ASAP…today…do it now. They want to send a mover to pick it up and they would deal with the transfer.
    Both me and my husband we like this smells funny…and if it smell like crap its crap. I emailed and texted all of them back telling them what they are…LOW LIFE SCAMMERS!!! ANYONE that does NOT want to actually talk to you and wants to ONLY converse in text or email….seller beware!!!

    Reply
  97. Paul
    Paul says:

    Received the same scam request from “Dorothy”. Replied with engine pics not knowing it was a scammer. Follow up email from “her” was very suspicious, so I checked with Autotrader and confirmed the scam. Bye Bye Dorothy!!!

    Reply
  98. Mike
    Mike says:

    Same scam. “Zack Olden” zackolden@gmail.com sent an email wanting to buy my car for full price sight unseen. He claims his wife just gave birth and he is on holiday and therefore can only pay by paypal. He stated his “mover” will come by to do the paperwork and pick up the car. Here is the actual email “Zack” sent me:

    I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash

    in person because I’m currently on Holiday

    trip,My only quickest payment option is PayPal,

    its safe fast and secured and i will be

    responsible for the PayPal transaction charges

    so you can get your expected amount. If you

    don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty

    easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com

    and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as

    fast as possible? As I am buying it for my wife

    that just give birth, and I’m pretty very sure

    she will love it. I have a mover that will come

    for the pick up once payment clears in your

    paypal account and moved into your bank

    account, The mover will handle the

    documentations and changing of ownership on my

    behalf. I’ll look forward to hearing from you

    with the information below so that I can make

    the payment this today.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Phone # linked with PayPal:
    Full name:
    Zip code for pickup:

    Reply
  99. jojo
    jojo says:

    my story: posted a car for sale on auto trader today, and thanks to vigilant online communities i’m not getting scammed!

    scammer: marcus
    text message received: “Hello, am interested in your vehicle posted on AUTOTRADER, please reply to my email smails2434@gmail.com with large/ Big engine pics or video before i proceed. Thank you. Marcus”
    from ph#: 423-707-6874

    Reply
  100. EdS
    EdS says:

    I’m in Ft. Lauderdale Florida. Same scam. Same phone / email.
    Thanks, everyone, for your previous posts that I was sable to peruse to confirm my suspicions.

    Reply
  101. WL
    WL says:

    Why doesnt Autotrader or PayPal do something about this???

    I also got hit up by the Dorothy Jackson scam after posting on autotrader! She responded to listing in day 1.
    She said she wanted to pay for the car on PayPal.
    Confirming her email address: dj2500043@gmail.com

    Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle?. I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m currently in a conference and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I’m pretty very sure he will love it, he’s an handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf. I’ll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as
    soon as possible.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Full name:
    Zip code for pickup:
    Firm Price

    Reply
  102. HL
    HL says:

    Received text messages and emails from “Dorothy Jackson” asking the exact same questions and saying can buy full price but must use Paypal.com
    I searched this person’s/group’s email and found this site, thank goodness!

    Phone: 785-285-6609
    Email: dj2500043@gmail.com

    Beware!

    Reply
  103. Jonathon
    Jonathon says:

    My Autotrader ad just went live last night and this morning got a suspicious text message from Zack Olden. Here’s what it said: “I saw the vehicle you posted on Autotrader today on my friend’s phone & i copied your #, Pls send the vehicle autotrader link or pics & details to zackolden@gmail.com so i can check the pics and details very well on my PC before I proceed with the purchase. Zack”

    Thanks for posting this info……it confirmed my suspicions. Although I’m tempted to email this guy something nasty, the other posters are right. The best thing to do at present is to not respond. I am going to report it to the Autotrader anti-fraud department at 877-742-8040.

    Reply
  104. Phil Gustafson
    Phil Gustafson says:

    Zack Olden has contacted me about my advertised car on autotrader with the same scam. I put in his name and got to this forum. Thanks, everyone. 

    Reply
  105. KM
    KM says:

    I listed my car yesterday and was contacted by ronroberts793@gmail 774-204-9159 last night and then by a dorothy at dj2500043@gmail.com 785-285-6609 this morning.

    From Ron this morning: “Am so much interested in the vehicle and can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this Vehicle as a Birthday gift for my brother? Do you have the title for the vehicle and how long have you owned it, as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as my brother’s birthday is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below to proceed with the Payment thanks. I will also need your contact to discus this better on the phone”

    I emailed him back and told him cash or certified bank check only the he replied asking for my name, address and last asking price. I told him No thanks, your a scammer and not to email me again.

    Reply
  106. Katie
    Katie says:

    I received an email from Zack Olden and upon doing a Google search, I found this forum. Thank you all for posting your experience! Hopefully it helps save others from the scam.

    Reply
  107. Allen
    Allen says:

    Got a text from “Dorothy” at (210) 960-1131 with request to send engine pick to dj2500043@gmail.com

    I Google all people that text or email now and sometimes call them from a google voice number if it seems fishy.

    Be careful everyone, just saw a story today about an elderly couple that went missing after going to look at a car on Craigslist. Meet in a public parking lot and do the transaction at the bank if there’s any real amount of money being exchanged. Have it deposited right into the account then and there.

    Reply
  108. AB2
    AB2 says:

    Just got the same message here in Los Angeles from Dorothy Jackson. Email is dj2500043@gmail.com and phone number is 309-889-0967. We have a love/hate relationship with the internet. It allows scammers like this to exist and it also lets us find out about these scammers! I’m glad I googled her first before wasting any time.

    Reply
  109. trent
    trent says:

    (276) 447-0734 I’m interested in your vehicle on autotrader if still available reply to my email julietthomas00@gmail.com with the engine pics.Juliet

    (302) 413-6078 I love the Vehicle you posted on Autotrader and i will want you to send me the engine pictures to welsonclark8@gmail.com. Before i can proceed thanks… welson

    Got both of these within 24 hours of posting. I already had a picture of my engine that they would have seen if they had looked at my vehicle. The first I thought might be a scam, so I texted back “I already have a pic on my post you should have seen” but no one responded, instead, 10 hours later Juliet tried.

    Reply
  110. Ray
    Ray says:

    Well she’s still active – this time as Dorothy Jackson. We were suspicious and had her call us. Strange voice, like a guy trying to sound like a woman. Didn’t sound like a Dorothy Jackson and didn’t sound like she was in a conference today. The phone number was 973-298-2352. Was very indignant that we were questioning her. We told her we thought it was a scam and hung up. Then saw this post. Love the advice of no paypal transactions and will now search everyone’s name on the net along with the word scam.

    Reply
  111. PaulG
    PaulG says:

    I posted 2 vans on AutoTrader and within 2 hours I received a text message from 928-239-1191 asking me to send engine pictures to RonRoberts793@gmail.com. I saw this same scam when I posted my vans on Craig’s List with various people telling me they love my vehicles and are willing to buy them at my price sight-unseen. All I have to do is give them my PayPal address. The people that have posted their comments on this site have done a lot of good to help others of us who might have been tempted or perhaps just a little curious. Please know that if you give into temptation by responding with pictures of middle fingers or angry comments, your communications medium will be provided to similar scammers via a black market hit list and you will start getting a lot more uninvited messages. The only defense against thieves like those that are stealing our products is not to respond. They are not based in this country and are not subject to prosecution by our authorities.

    Reply
    • ChuckG
      ChuckG says:

      This guy contacted me from a different phone, but same email. (774) 204-9159.

      What tipped me off was the grammar being awkward and ignoring I DID post engine pics.

      “I love the Vehicle you posted on Autotrader and i will want you to send me the engine pictures or video to Ronroberts793@gmail.com. Before i can proceed
      thanks… Ron”

      Reply
  112. Justin
    Justin says:

    another hit for “ronroberts793@gmail.com. new phone number is 928-239-1191 wanted engine pictures emailed to “him”. thank God for google….lol

    Reply
  113. chavez
    chavez says:

    Got 2 scam inquiries texted today. One wanted to buy right away with Paypal and have me ship the car without seeing it. That was Pat 710-747-9368. shut that situation down real quick. Then I got a text message similar to the one outlined above from Dorothy 215-716-8321 asking for pictures of the engine to be emailed at dj500043@gmail.com. Didn’t even waste time on that one #byefelicia

    BEWARE GUYS! SO MANY SHADY PEOPLE! SMH!

    Reply
  114. Patty
    Patty says:

    I too ALMOST got scammed by this Zack guy. Luckily someone at the MoneyGram dept. at Walmart had seen this before and warned me. It’s a shame that there are such evil in this world. I guess I will never be this naive again.
    I wish I knew where to go to report this.

    Reply
  115. Jeff
    Jeff says:

    Some more scammers with similar pitches to ad to the list:

    Marcus
    650-419-3201
    smails2434@gmail.com

    And

    (Unnamed)
    302-413-6078
    Welsonclark8@gmail.com

    Both came across as texts to email. Both asked for pics showing engine compartment be sent to a stated gmail email address. The initial one arrived very soon after I started the ad (before I had even posted my pics) saying that he loved my vehicle (no specific make or model referenced).

    Reply
  116. JET
    JET says:

    Well, our boy Zach is at it again. I just posted an Autotrader ad, and within Hours I had an email wanting to know if the car was still for sale.
    I responded with yes, and let me know if you had any questions.

    He responded with wanting to know a bunch of things, including does it have a spare tire or any body rust. Obviously anyone buying a Corvette would know they have neither.
    So I Googled his name, and found this site.

    Reply
  117. David
    David says:

    Three separate phone numbers have attempted this scam on me already the last few days:
    720-282-7675
    617-793-5291
    202-697-7305

    They follow the methods outlined above. Nothing else to add. They’re criminals.

    Reply
  118. David Sparkman
    David Sparkman says:

    Some of the verbiage suggests that this is an out of country scam as most are (ENFL). That protects the perps from US Law. Pity the uninformed, the older generation and those not suspicious…

    Reply
  119. FS
    FS says:

    I got a text from Ron Roberts (ronroberts793@gmail.com) asking about engine pics and the following e-mail below.

    Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this Vehicle as a Birthday gift for my brother? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as my brother’s birthday is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below to proceed with the Payment thanks. I will also need your contact to discus this better on the phone

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Your Zip code for pickup

    Reply
  120. Cory
    Cory says:

    Posted my car on AutoTrader, Craigslist, and Cars.com. Got a message from Zack Olden and this morning received a text from 407-289-8142. Both seem to be scams.

    Reply
  121. zak
    zak says:

    I posted my car on craigslist, I received a text (just like MO ^) for someone asking if I still had the car and to email at patriciakendall1989@outlook.com. They said they couldn’t talk on the phone because they were in a conference and calls were restricted. They asked a bunch of questions about the car and were more specific then other comments in this thread. They wanted to pay my full asking price on pay pal and said they would send someone to pick the car up. Should I arrange a Pick up with the Police?

    Reply
    • admin
      admin says:

      Regrettably, whoever they send to pick up the car will know very little other than they were sent to pick up the car.    But it probably can’t hurt to call the police and see what they recommend.  Thanks for being proactive.

      Reply
  122. Jen
    Jen says:

    From: zack Olden <zackolden@gmail.com>
    Date: January 4, 2015 at 2:50:55 PM EST
    To: 
    Subject: Re:

    I'm ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I'm
    currently on Holiday trip,My only quickest payment option is PayPal,
    its safe fast and secured and i will be responsible for the PayPal
    transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don't
    have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto
    http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as
    possible? As I am buying it for my wife that just give birth, and I'm
    pretty very sure she will love it.
    I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in
    your paypal account and moved into your bank account, The mover will
    handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf.
    I'll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so
    that I can make the payment today.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Phone # linked with PayPal:
    Full name:
    Zip code for pickup:

    Zack.

    On Jan 4, 2015, at 11:20 AM, zack Olden <zackolden@gmail.com> wrote:

    Thanks for getting back to me, here are my questions i believe you
    will have answers to.
    Do you have the extra keys?:
    Do you have the spare tire?:
    Where did you get your car serviced?:
    When is the last date you service it?:
    Have you ever had any transmission repairs?:
    And Is there any rust on the body?:
    Are you the original owner?:
    How much do you have in mind to sell it last?:

    Get back to me with answers to my questions and i will make my final
    conclusion and get back to you.

    Zack

    Reply
  123. Gary
    Gary says:

    Got this same type of email from Zack Olden
    5:38 PM (21 hours ago)

    to me
    I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m
    currently on Holiday trip,My only quickest payment option is PayPal,
    its safe fast and secured and i will be responsible for the PayPal
    transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t
    have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto
    http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as
    possible? As I am buying it for my wife that just give birth, and I’m
    pretty very sure she will love it.
    I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in
    your paypal account and moved into your bank account, The mover will
    handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf.
    I’ll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so
    that I can make the payment this today.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Phone # linked with PayPal:
    Full name:
    Zip code for pickup:

    Zack.

    Reply
  124. Bruce Jankowitz
    Bruce Jankowitz says:

    Just listed my car on autotrader and got a text from Juliet at 601-563-7887 asking that I send engine pics to an email address. I sent an email to her saying I didn’t have any but got no response. Later that day I got another text from zack olden at 210-100-018, asking for an autotrader link to my ad. This seemed strange so I did a quick search and found this. Needless to say I will do no more and hoping my story helps prevent this from happening to anyone else.

    Regards,
    Bruce

    Reply
  125. Mo
    Mo says:

    I posted a car yesterday, and I’ve received three text messages from three different “buyers” all attempting this same scam. It varies a bit by approach, but to me, the clear giveaway is that they will not meet you in person or speak to you. They work by text messages and email, which is a bizarre way to purchase a vehicle. Here are my three interactions below. I’ve posed phone numbers and emails in hopes that people doing Google searches (like I found this website) will come across this, and be more educated as to potential scams when selling their vehicles.

    #1) Name unknown. Phone: 407-289-8142. Did a search on 411.com, and this guy’s been busy with this pitch. He offered to do the Paypal thing and send the shipper without ever seeing the vehicle. Worked only through text message. I stopped responding after searching for the number on 411.com and seeing how many people reported this as a scam.

    #2) Dorothy. Phone: 928-756-3115. Email: dj2500043@gmail.com. Sent me a text message asking for engine pics be sent to the email address. Same pitch as listed above.

    #3) Patricia Kendall. Phone: 720-282-7675. Email: patriciakendall1989@outlook.com. Asked me if the car was available via text message and asked me to respond via email. Then asked me the standard questions as listed above by another victim. “Do you have spare keys? Do you have a spare tire? Where was the vehicle serviced? Are there any transmission issues? Is there any rust?” I answered her questions, and then proposed that we speak and arrange to meet to see the vehicle (I did not know this was a scam at the time). She never replied to my offer to speak and meet.

    Reply
  126. Leslie
    Leslie says:

    Not knowing Zack was a scammer, we invoiced him for sale of our vehicle directly from paypal. We didn’t know it was fake until
    He (it) sent back fake emails from “service@paypal.com”, and he emailed us directly letting us know that we should check our spam folder for those confirmations from paypal which were there. It appears they are not trying so hard to get the car any longer, but definitely to get some cash out of you ($1600 in our case) claiming that in order to get the $15,995 for the car, PayPal needed us to Moneygram the shipping fee before it would release the total funds to us. Here is what was in the paypal email that was hilariously fake with subject line “Instructions On How To Complete Your Pending Transaction With Zack Olden”:

    “We Sincerely Seek Your Esteemed Co-operation In Order To Get The Total Fund Released To Your Account.

    This is to let you know that we are holding this payment due to the amount of money involved and being the first payment into your PayPal account, it is mandatory you know that the fund has been completely deducted from Zack Olden account and will become available in your account balance immediately the fund is released from our payment verification team desk,therefore be rest assured that the total fund is safe with us and Zack Olden has no access to it any more.
    We urge you to go ahead and send the shipping fee of $1.485.00 USD to the confirmed name and address of the mover below via Money Gram and email us the Money Gram receipt scanned copy,picture or the details on the receipt for verification.
    Doing this will assure us that Zack Olden will get the vehicle he paid for and we will release the total sum of $17,595.00 USD to your account immediately.
    Please understand that our major aim is to protect you and Zack Olden, we want to assure you that you are safe, secured and protected on this transaction if you follow the verification procedures by sending the shipping fee to the mover, because the total fund is at the 98% stage of reflecting in your account which implies the total fund will be released to your account immediately we receive the requirement from you.

    Find below the name and address of the mover where the shipping fee of $1,485.00 USD would be sent to via Money Gram.”

    He also said the following to us in an email:

    I am glad to inform you that I have made the payment to your PayPal
    account and you ought to have received the payment confirmation from
    PayPal by now. Kindly remove the ads and check your PayPal email
    address for the payment receipt. I had a little problem with the mover
    they said they can only schedule the pick up date and time after they
    receive their money for the pick up fee via Money gram Money transfer
    or Money Gram in there head office in Indianapolis, IN. So l included
    $1485.00 USD that they charge for the pick up and shipping fee and
    $115 for the Money Gram charges to send it,thats additional $1600 plus
    your asking price, PayPal will instruct you on how to get the shipping
    fee sent to the mover.
    The Money gram agent might ask you purpose of sending money at Money
    Gram office, tell him or her you are sending it to a well known friend
    or family, because Money Gram charges for friends and family is lower
    than the one for business or services. I hope you understand that, to
    avoid additional Money gram charges.The payment has been made and the
    money has been deducted from my account. Kindly get the shipping fee
    sent to the name and address below today and send the details to
    PayPal email customer care for your account to be credited today. I
    believe that since payment has been made, the advert should be taken
    off the site and please do let me know your free date and time so that
    I can give it to my mover for them to schedule the date and time they
    will be coming for the pick up in your location.

    Pickup Agent details:

    Name: Alicia Connar
    address: 155 Moller Rd
    City: Indianapolis
    State: IN
    Zip code: 46224
    Country: USA

    I will be waiting to read from you as soon as you complete your part
    of this transaction.

    Zack.”

    Reply
  127. mitch
    mitch says:

    I received several emails from Zack Olden wanting to use PayPal to purchase my car today. Refused to give any personal info or speak directly on the phone.

    Reply
  128. DS
    DS says:

    Just received the same inquiry. This is the phone number she used. (928) 756-3115. Here is her text with the email address.

    I'm interested in your vehicle on Cars if still available reply to my email dj2500043@gmail.com with the engine pics.Dorothy

    Reply
    • larisa casillas
      larisa casillas says:

      This man or woman also contacted me with the same paypal story and not being able to talk because of the conference. But it seems like they’re using a new email and alias ‘Juliet’ and email tjuliet06@gmail.com phone 657.207.8968. Autotrader says to always get information out of potential buyers and this person seemed too eager to buy right off the bat and was pushy.

      Reply
  129. a m
    a m says:

    I got a reply from a Julia Joseph (juliajsph090@gmail.com) asking about the vehicle. Said she is ready to pay the asking price but not cash in person because she is serving in the marines in FOB Geronimo, Afghanistan and calls are restricted at the moment. She said she can only pay by paypal and that she will be responsible for transaction charges. She was hoping to make the purchase as fast as possible, she is buying the car for her dad who is a mechanic and handyman. She was going to have a mover that will come pick up the vehicle and handle the title papers.

    Reply
  130. Kyle
    Kyle says:

    Thanks guys. Same exact scam with me today. As soon as I got a text and replied, the wording was unusual. Seemed foreign because of the grammatical mistakes(sorry for the stereotype) so I immediately looked up the email address and found this page first. I’m about to email her a picture of my middle finger instead of the engine bay to see what she thinks

    Reply
  131. Kp
    Kp says:

    Zack Olden text… Same as above "your vehicle" generic crap…,second scamer in 24 hours! First one was Andy Bill Taylor in the Arny buying a Christmas gift for his son! How frustrating.,

    Reply
  132. NoScam
    NoScam says:

    Zack Olden used on December 22nd, 2014 emailed from my Autotrader ad – I could tell it is a scam because they say “your listed vehicle” instead of the actual type of car it is. They are sending out blanket replies on everything most likely.

    Name: Zack Olden
    Email: zackolden@gmail.com
    Message:
    Do you still have your listed vehicle available for sale ?

    Reply
  133. Tyrone Willingham
    Tyrone Willingham says:

    She is still at it:

    On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Dorothy Jackson wrote:
    Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle?. I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m currently in a conference and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I’m pretty very sure he will love it, he’s an handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf. I’ll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as
    soon as possible.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Full name:
    Zip code for pickup:
    Firm Price

    Reply
  134. Kristel
    Kristel says:

    She goes by Dorothy Jackson now, but same message. (312) 585-2601 – this is the phone number she used to contact me yesterday and this is the email – dj2500043@gmail.com. 

    Thanks for the warning!

     

    Reply
  135. LV
    LV says:

    Just got the same email from Dorothy Jackson, she has a new gmail account now.

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    From: Dorothy Jackson
    Date: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:10 PM
    Subject: Re: Engine view

    Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle?. I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m currently in a conference and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I’m pretty very sure he will love it, he’s an handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf. I’ll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as
    soon as possible.

    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Full name:
    Zip code for pickup:
    Firm Price

    Reply
  136. Phil Van Court
    Phil Van Court says:

    Thanks for the posts. I received similar inquiry by the same phone number 919 391 3247.  The email address used was different than above: the request was made to send the pics of the engine to dj2500043@gmail.com and apparently they are only going by "Jackson" now.  

    Thanks all.

    Phil Van Court

    Reply
  137. Dan Haligas
    Dan Haligas says:

    Zack must be the new name they are using now!!

    Thank you for getting back to me,I know my wife will love this vehicle
    because she use to have one before our son crush it,I know she will be
    Happy to have another one as a Birthday Gift from me.
    I am ready to proceed with the purchase but not cash in person,
    because I’m an oceanographer and am presently on a contract on the
    sea, i would have loved to call you to discus better about this but
    the network signal on the sea area is bad, its not always clear if i
    make calls or receive calls,so i prefer text or message through my
    email.
    My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secured for both
    of us, they have a seller and buyer protection which protects both of
    us on this transaction, i will be responsible for the paypal
    transaction charges so you can get your expected asking price.If you
    don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to
    http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as
    possible? as my Wife’s birthday is fast approaching.I have a mover
    that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your paypal
    account and transferred into your bank account and he will come with a
    purchase agreement form for you to sign and he will also handle the
    title on my behalf.I look forward to read from you with the
    information below.
    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Zip code of where to pick up the vehicle :

    Thanks.
    Zack.

    Reply
  138. Holly
    Holly says:

    Just received the same email from Zack! Dec. 4,2014, so be aware he is at it again! thank Mark for posting this scammer!
    Thank you for getting back to me,I know my wife will love this vehicle
    because she use to have one before our son crush it,I know she will be
    Happy to have another one as a Birthday Gift from me.
    I am ready to proceed with the purchase but not cash in person,
    because I’m an oceanographer and am presently on a contract on the
    sea, i would have loved to call you to discus better about this but
    the network signal on the sea area is bad, its not always clear if i
    make calls or receive calls,so i prefer text or message through my
    email.
    My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secured for both
    of us, they have a seller and buyer protection which protects both of
    us on this transaction, i will be responsible for the paypal
    transaction charges so you can get your expected asking price.If you
    don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to
    http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as
    possible? as my Wife’s birthday is fast approaching.I have a mover
    that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your paypal
    account and transferred into your bank account and he will come with a
    purchase agreement form for you to sign and he will also handle the
    title on my behalf.I look forward to read from you with the
    information below.
    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Zip code of where to pick up the vehicle :

    Thanks.
    Zack.

    Reply
  139. Mark Baumann
    Mark Baumann says:

    Here is the ‘SCAM’ request I just received:
    zack Olden Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 12:49 PM
    To: Mark Baumann
    Thank you for getting back to me,I know my wife will love this vehicle
    because she use to have one before our son crush it,I know she will be
    Happy to have another one as a Birthday Gift from me.
    I am ready to proceed with the purchase but not cash in person,
    because I’m an oceanographer and am presently on a contract on the
    sea, i would have loved to call you to discus better about this but
    the network signal on the sea area is bad, its not always clear if i
    make calls or receive calls,so i prefer text or message through my
    email.
    My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secured for both
    of us, they have a seller and buyer protection which protects both of
    us on this transaction, i will be responsible for the paypal
    transaction charges so you can get your expected asking price.If you
    don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to
    http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as
    possible? as my Wife’s birthday is fast approaching.I have a mover
    that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your paypal
    account and transferred into your bank account and he will come with a
    purchase agreement form for you to sign and he will also handle the
    title on my behalf.I look forward to read from you with the
    information below.
    Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
    Your last asking price:
    Zip code of where to pick up the vehicle :

    Thanks.
    Zack.

    Reply
  140. Georgia Boy
    Georgia Boy says:

    Just happened to me. The text (from 9193913247) didn’t catch me off guard but the email (from dorothyjackson41@gmail.com) did. Thankfully my skepticism got the best of me and I searched that email address. Everything was word for word that everyone has been posting.

    MP

    Reply
  141. Mike Aethon
    Mike Aethon says:

    Received text first from dorothyjackson41@gmail.com, asking for engine pics. Phone was 231-307-7345. Sent the pics. Later received request as above, nearly verbatim. Email says she is buying car for her father.

    Be wary – I also received several phone calls from local, legitimate business people who wanted to buy the car, albeit at a lower price than I requested.

    caveat venditor

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  142. Chuck Archer
    Chuck Archer says:

    This morning I received a similar text. I thought it might be a scam and you just confirmed my suspicion. Luckily, I found your website before anything else occurred. Rest assured, I will never take anything but cash or a certified bank check. Thanks for the info! CA

    Test Message from: (651) 560-7373

    “I’m interested in your vehicle on Autotrader if still available reply to my email dorothyjackson41@gmail.com with the engine pics.jackson” {SIC}

    Reply
  143. Dan
    Dan says:

    Same scammer just sent me a text – that is three proven scammers within 24 hours of posting my ad.

    A potential buyer interested in your vehicle has sent you a text message.

    Message: I’m interested in your vehicle on Autotrader if still available reply to my email leaanstange13@gmail.com with the engine pics. Leaan
    Phone: 2108076176
    Regards,
    Privacy Shield Team

    To anonymously respond to this text message, log into your Manage Your Ad section on AutoTrader.com, and click on Messages -> Text Tab.

    Reply
  144. Jim Tierney
    Jim Tierney says:

    Ron’s changed his phone number: 919-891-3900

    Got a text today for a new posting. Didn’t respond as it sounded odd and did a search for his email. Thanks for setting up this site.

    Reply
  145. Daryn
    Daryn says:

    I received texts from the same two “people” as Alan requesting photos of the engine. I also already have engine photos on my ad.
    Ronrobinson793@gmail.com
    leaanstange13@gmail.com
    Phone numbers the texts came from:
    +1 (305) 515-5862 Ron
    +1 (551) 795-8038 Leaan

    Total Scam. I feel we are the lucky ones who were cognisant enough to avoid being scammed. It’s amazing with this much going on that a simple sting operation isn’t done to protect consumers.

    Reply
    • admin
      admin says:

      Daryn, we appreciate your comment. This scam is somewhat “sting-resistant” because the people taking the cars are not necessarily the organizers. We’ve been informed that the people who actually pick up the cars are hired on a per-job basis and aren’t the one’s behind it. That said, it is frustrating that authorities haven’t been able to track the texters and prosecute them, like they do with spammers. We are hoping that by cataloging the texting activity on this webpage, we are providing useful information to law enforcement. So we thank you all for continuing to share your experience with these con-artists.

      Reply
    • admin
      admin says:

      This is somewhat promising, as Ms. Murrand’s name may now be poisonous enough that the scammers are no longer using it. Thanks for sharing this information.

      Reply
  146. Mike
    Mike says:

    Sept 15th and Marie is still at it. 681 214 2473. Took her less than 12 hours to text me the PayPal scam. I too wasted my time snapping engine pics and answering questions contained in the email he/she sent after I emailed photos. Text request to email pictures is how they get your email address to take the next step in the fraud.

    Reply
  147. Alex
    Alex says:

    I received the same email word by word. I Was suspicious too but I did not scan for it and fell for this too by sending pictures and response to the email. The phone number used is 818-721-8534

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  148. Rich
    Rich says:

    Texted me asking for pictures of the engine and everything else to the T. Became suspicious, searched email address and PayPal car scam. Thanks all!

    Reply
  149. Eddy
    Eddy says:

    Same here. The ad was barley up and I got a Txt but this time from a Mark Thompson, in the USAF stationed in Germany. But the email is exactly the same with the paypal thing, etc…

    Reply
  150. AMS
    AMS says:

    We received the same message after sending the engine pics. Knew it sounded fishy, so we googled her email address. Thanks for posting!

    Reply
  151. ED
    ED says:

    GOT THE SAME ESSAGE FROM A JOSHUA HAWK—-SAID HE WAS OVERSEAS UNDER CONTRACT WITH A OCEANOGRAPHY COMPANY. WANTED THE CAR FOR HIS DAD WITH PAY PAL TRANSACTION. WANTED ENGINE PICTURE AS WELL. BEWARE

    Reply
  152. Cra cra
    Cra cra says:

    Thank you for sharing such valuable information to the innocent sellers.
    I received the same message and had sent “her” a picture of the engine. I recommended “her” other payment methods, but “she” insisted to deal with PayPal. I felt suspicious, thus looked up the email and found this page. Is there a way the law could stop such despicable deed? I wish “they” all be legally sanctioned.

    Reply
    • admin
      admin says:

      What these scammers are doing is definitely illegal. AutoTrader indicated that they had referred complaints about “Maria” and similar scammers to the FBI. Our hope is the more we expose these scammers, the better the odds that the law will finally catch up to them.

      Reply
  153. Brandon
    Brandon says:

    My ad on Autotrader hadn’t even gone live yet and I got a text message from this person. I sent a few engine pictures, but once I saw the PayPal request, I knew something was up.

    Reply
  154. Haris
    Haris says:

    Got a message from Marie just now too. I caught on pretty quick and found this site. The number this time was 253-244-6906

    Reply
  155. Honeybunches
    Honeybunches says:

    Thanks for this post! Got the text this morning asking for engine pics for my cars.com post. Came from 3072485809.

    Reply
  156. KP
    KP says:

    Listed my vehicle yesterday on Auto Trader – just now received a txt msg from “Maria”: “I’m interested in your vehicle on AUtotrader (‘she’ spelled it that way) if still available reply to my email mariemurrend65@gmail.com with the engine pics. Maria”. *Thing is, I Have a photo of the engine already in my listing!*
    Luckily I didn’t fall off the stupid boat recently and am well aware of scams. Guess it was too much to hope to not be bothered by any tho?! Before even responding to the message, I googled the phone number, which is supposedly located in Alabama (I’m in SW AZ). I decided to go further and check out the name she gave … Auto Trader PayPal Scam was the top hit. THANK YOU sandiegocan.org for having this info out there. It all fits to the T. I so wish these scammers would find Real jobs and leave the hard working folk alone!
    ^A Guy^ – hopefully you don’t waste too much of your precious time trying to annoy “Marie”, while the thought is a good one, they’ll probably block your number and move on the the next potential mark. Good Luck tho. We’ll never get back the time we’ve wasted on these jerks.

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  157. A Guy
    A Guy says:

    I also received a message from this person. Luckily, I goggled the email address and found this.

    So as a courtesy for everyone who has been victimized or had their time wasted, Marie will be receiving very annoying automatic text messages on her cell phone every minute for the foreseeable future.

    So far, Marie is definitely annoyed.

    Reply
  158. Russ
    Russ says:

    It pays to be suspicious. Got the same invite to send pics of the engine. With the Massachucets area code, I inquired…twice. No response. I looked up the email address and found your page. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

    Russ

    Reply
    • Bob Feese
      Bob Feese says:

      Maria is now Zack Olden working via email (zackolden@gmail.com)…no phone number…thought it looked suspicious…thanks for the heads-up!
      Bob

      Reply
      • Danny
        Danny says:

        Yeah, I just got the same email from these fools. My first tip off is when you send me an email and never bother leaving your name in the email or a phone number.

        Who does business without using their name!

        And they used the exact same form letter, gave me the fake paypal link, and had the info of it below.

        This is why I stopped trading on ebay. Ebay insist on using paypal to even join ebay, you have to have a paypal account and it was getting hard to get around having the paypal account.

        And ebay acts as if they were on the scammers side with the purchases, so I left them alone. Word to the wise folks. Whenever you get an email from anyone concerning buying or selling. Copy and paste a portion of the email in google and you’ll see that others have encountered the same scam!

        HERE IS THEIR SCAM EMAIL TO ME:
        Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you
        get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and
        Is there any rust on the vehicle? I’m ready to pay your asking price
        and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and
        secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so
        you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with
        PayPal, its pretty easy to open one, Just log onto http://www.PayPal.com and
        sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am
        buying the vehicle for my dad as a birthday surprise and I’m very sure
        he will love this vehicle, his a mechanic and a handy man, so if there
        is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will
        handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up and title
        transfer with a notarized letter from Attorney once payment clears in
        your account and he will handle the title for me. I look forward to
        hear from you with the information below.

        Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
        Full name:
        Pickup address:
        Firm Price:

        Thanks

        Reply
        • Garth
          Garth says:

          Thanks so much for this article and all the comments about this scam. I listed my vehicle last night with my cell number in the listing and woke up this morning to two texts (Long Island 5164908278-Frank and Utah 8019815711-no name provided) and one email (David davdahlen14@gmail.com) that were all scams with the PayPal account request. Then later in the day another email that was a scam (Jane Goretti-janegoretti1209@gmail.com). Thinking that listing on Autotrader.ca was a bad idea. I also listed on Kijiji but not a single issue there!

          Sellers beware!!

          Reply
        • julio cesar
          julio cesar says:

          OMG thank you guys for posting i just posted my truck on auto trader, the first night i got this email from a Fuch Barnett.

          at first i was like wow this is cool i can sell my truck no worries, but then i thought twice when in the email it asked for a spare and i was like hmmm i showed the truck with a spare full tire photo, that was a red flag.

          be cautious hope this helps this is the email there using (Fuch Barnett fuchbarnett688@gmail.com)

          Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle? I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I am serving in the US army and currently been deploy to NATO Air Base Geilenkirchen, Germany and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one, Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying the vehicle for my dad and I’m very sure he will love this vehicle, his a mechanic and a handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me. I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

          Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
          Full name:
          Firm Price:
          Zip code for pickup:
          Thanks

          Fuch

          Reply
        • Falcon Eddy
          Falcon Eddy says:

          New Name: Joel McCarthy

          Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you
          get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and
          Is there any rust on the vehicle? I’m ready to pay your asking price
          but not cash in person because I am serving in the US Army and
          currently been deploy to Fort Huachuca Military Base , Arizona and
          calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option
          is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the
          PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you
          don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one, Just
          log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase
          as fast as possible? As I am buying the vehicle for my dad and I’m
          very sure he will love this vehicle, his a mechanic and a handy man,
          so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know
          he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once
          payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I
          would appreciate if you email me with more pictures (if available) too
          since i won’t be able to see this in person. I look forward to hear
          from you with the information below. I look forward to hear from you
          with the information below.

          Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
          Full name:
          Firm Price:
          Phone Number:
          Zip code for pickup:

          Thanks
          Joel

          Reply
          • Falcon Eddy
            Falcon Eddy says:

            New Name: Terry Carlson

            Thanks for your response,Do you have extra keys? and When is the last
            date you serviced it? are you the original owner, i need answers to my
            question because I’m ready to pay but not cash in person because I’m
            currently on a business trip and my only quickest payment option is
            Square Cash, Square Cash is fast and secured, I will send you payment
            using your registered email with them and you will sign in to your
            square cash account and move the money into your bank or Card account,
            its very easy and secure step to transfer money with Card, and ill be
            responsible for the 2.75% Square Cash charges, Go to cash.me and set
            up your account in 2 min, get back to me with the email you use to
            open account with them when you are done, and i will process the
            payment asap.

            I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it
            for my wife that just give birth to twins to appreciate her on her
            birthday for going through the 9 month stress and for given me two
            boys lol, she once own one before but her brother crashed it, so am
            sure she will love it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up
            once payment clears in bank/card account. The mover will handle the
            documentations on my behalf. I’ll look forward to your response with
            the the details below.

            Your Email linked with Cash.me:
            Your Firm Asking Price :
            Your Zip Code for Pick Up:
            Your Mobile Phone Number:

            Terry.

          • Falcon Eddy
            Falcon Eddy says:

            Two within the same day. Terry Carlson is his name with new story.

            Thanks for your response,Do you have extra keys? and When is the last
            date you serviced it? are you the original owner, i need answers to my
            question because I’m ready to pay but not cash in person because I’m
            currently on a business trip and my only quickest payment option is
            Square Cash, Square Cash is fast and secured, I will send you payment
            using your registered email with them and you will sign in to your
            square cash account and move the money into your bank or Card account,
            its very easy and secure step to transfer money with Card, and ill be
            responsible for the 2.75% Square Cash charges, Go to cash.me and set
            up your account in 2 min, get back to me with the email you use to
            open account with them when you are done, and i will process the
            payment asap.

            I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it
            for my wife that just give birth to twins to appreciate her on her
            birthday for going through the 9 month stress and for given me two
            boys lol, she once own one before but her brother crashed it, so am
            sure she will love it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up
            once payment clears in bank/card account. The mover will handle the
            documentations on my behalf. I’ll look forward to your response with
            the the details below.

            Your Email linked with Cash.me:
            Your Firm Asking Price :
            Your Zip Code for Pick Up:
            Your Mobile Phone Number:

            Terry.

      • Gregg
        Gregg says:

        Zack Olden is alive and well and trying to scam me out of my car I just listed on AutoTraderClassics.com. Thanks for your posts! I did not send any photos or further respond to this loser.

        Is anyone getting inquiries from overseas military personnel to buy a car for their son? No mention of Paypal in this person’s message.

        Reply
          • Julie
            Julie says:

            Mike Jose wanting my paypal account # and email – – – only contact through email. Sound familiar? Asked him to call me several times – no call. Told him I could email paypal invoices for payment – no response. Same folks I’m guessing because this guy is out of town also and wants it ASAP.

    • George
      George says:

      Her name (is it really a woman?) is now Debbie Ledet and she is posting from debbieledet1989@outlook.com. The telephone number used to text her inquiry message was out of Colorado – (720) 539-8062

      She used the same letter posted at the beginning of this page.

      Reply
    • Kelly
      Kelly says:

      It is now Marc. He says its a birthday gift for his dad. He says he’s a software engineer in Hewlett Packard and a contract staff. Other than that, everything is the exact same. Email is ronkealani@gmail.com Should I report back to autotrader?

      Reply
        • Judith Gaylord
          Judith Gaylord says:

          I received the same scam from Marcus Bruce. phone 330-999-7194 and email of ronkealani@gmail.com. All the other details are exactly as stated by Kelly regarding a car on Auto Trader. Scary business! Thanks for the heads up!

          Reply
          • Joe Page
            Joe Page says:

            I listed my car on Auto Trader yesterday and within a couple of hours got a message from the same guy at the same email address wanting to see a picture of the engine bay. He wanted me to accept payment through PayPal but I told him I had a problem with that and that he should have his trusted agent meet me at my bank with cash in hand. I even offered to lower the price of my car if he would get back to me today on that.

            I’m still waiting to hear back from “Marcus”.

          • Cindi VW
            Cindi VW says:

            Yep- Marcus Bruce just wrote me the exact same thing. I have another caller who has said he wants to pay me in cash and wants the car sight unseen and will be driving 10 hours to get it. I told him my police woman friend said to have him to send me his drivers license and meet me at the bank (true story on that – I do have a good friend who is a cop), I wonder if I will hear back.

            Ugh – world is full of scam artists. I think I will just sell it to a dealer. I won’t make as much money, but at least I won’t lose it all!

          • Lisa
            Lisa says:

            Marcus Bruce is still scamming buy that car for his Dad! I received a text asking for close up pictures of the engine… number is: 307-271-6749. And then the EXACT email regarding purchasing the vehicle for his Dad. Email address is now: sj2233301@gmail.com. Thanks to everyone for the info on the scam. Helped me NOT to fall for it!

          • Rider
            Rider says:

            Marcus Bruce still using the same story about buying the car as a gift for his dad, but he works at HP and needs to purchase it using PayPal. Also texted me using phone number 908-291-2864. He opened the conversation asking for an up-close picture of the engine bay. Email is the same as above, ronkealani@gmail.com .

            Beware.

        • NIck
          NIck says:

          I just received the same thing on my ad. He asked for a pic of the engine and then I received this email.
          Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.
          Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
          Your last asking price:
          Your Zip code for pickup:
          Your Cell phone #:

          Thank you
          Mic

          Reply
          • Jess Med
            Jess Med says:

            I was selling my vehicle on autotrader and received this message too. I am very big on grammar (lol) and was NOT convinced that a HP software engineer was typing this. So I googled scams and came to this blog. I replied back to the “buyer” that I knew it was a scam and “Saint Ken” has not responded.

      • ron
        ron says:

        Just got email from Marc for my Porsche on autotrader.com same exact thing, birthday gift for dad with pictures of engine. First tip was…don’t you realize boxster engines can’t be photographed? Second tip was the email sent after I spent time opening the engine covers and sending photos….looked way too suspicious. email address says marcus Bruce officialmarc247@gmail.com claims to be a software engineer at HP….and uses terrible grammar and spelling….for a software engineer??? That was tip 3

        Reply
      • Kenny
        Kenny says:

        I got exactly the same email, obviously smelt funny so I sent a reply asking to meet him and I would bring along the cops, but then as I was getting the info off the email the email itself disappeared. As did the sent message to him. Everything email wise vanished. I have since changed all my passwords.

        Reply
    • kristen
      kristen says:

      Same thing happened to me. Its a scam, see below:

      ———- Forwarded message ———-
      From: JULIET THOMAS
      Date: Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:25 PM
      Subject: Re: Subaru

      Do you have the extra keys, Do you have the spare tire, Where did you get your car serviced, Have you ever had any transmission repairs and Is there any rust on the vehicle?. I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m currently in a conference and calls are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto http://www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying it for my dad and I’m pretty very sure he will love it, he’s an handy man, so if there is anything that need to be fixed in it just let me know he will handle it. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the documentations and changing of ownership on my behalf. I’ll look forward to hearing from you with the information below so that I can make the payment this morning as
      soon as possible.

      Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
      Full name:
      Zip code for pickup:
      Firm Price

      Reply
    • Allen
      Allen says:

      I just got a text and exact email from this person. luckily my gf told me to google her email and this came up. that is if its a she. they email is tjuliet06@gmail.com and phone number I received text from is (201)720-9872

      Reply
    • Dave
      Dave says:

      Was suspicious that someone would want to buy a big full-size passenger van, sight unseen, from far away. Juliet Thomas mlana3033@gmail.com 201-720-9872 (New Jersey). Emailed that I can take credit cards directly and that she can have a BIG discount because she ‘can’t’ first see the vehicle in-person. hahaha we’ll see if ‘she’ has the brains enough to back off.

      Reply
    • jack
      jack says:

      Now it is Marcus Bruce with this response:

      Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

      Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
      Your last asking price:
      Your Zip code for pickup:
      Your Cell phone #:

      Thank you
      Marc

      Reply
      • Gerry
        Gerry says:

        Just received the same offer from Marcus Bruce. At ronkealani@gmail.com. Thanks for posting your scam experience.

        Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

        Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
        Your last asking price:
        Your Zip code for pickup:
        Your Cell phone #:

        Thank you
        Marc

        Reply
    • RBO
      RBO says:

      This week it was Terry Carlson…same email. I wrote AutoTrader and asked them if there was anyway they could stop this.

      I spoke to PAYPAL; they were more than clueless.

      Figures.

      Reply
    • Reid
      Reid says:

      I got the same email this morning.
      (NOTE: I recommend you google search the email address for any sender you think might be suspicious. You can learn a lot by googling someone’s email address.)

      Current name being used:
      Bruce Marcus

      Here is the phone number used :
      +1 (856) 418-0887

      Here is the email address this person is using:
      sj2233301@gmail.com

      Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

      Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
      Your last asking price:
      Your Zip code for pickup:
      Your Cell phone #:

      Thank you
      Marc

      Reply
    • Jen
      Jen says:

      Her new scam name is…Mary Lloyd

      I RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING EMAILS:
      Thanks for getting back to me regarding my text…I hope it is in good condition? and there wont be any cause of disappointment if i purchase it from you? I want to buy it for my dad and I am ready to pay the asking price. I’m a Marine Engineer and am currently on sea right now which is strictly no calls. My Mode of payment is PayPal because i don’t have access to my bank account online, but i have it attached to my PayPal account. Since I’m requesting this transaction to be done via PayPal, I will be responsible for all the PayPal fees/charges on this transaction, if you don’t have an account with PayPal, it’s pretty easy, safe and secure to open one. Just log on to http://www.paypal.com I hope we can make this transaction as fast as possible. Less I forgot, I have a Mover that will come for the pick up once payment is cleared in your PayPal account and they will be handling the everything for me, as I look forward to hearing from you with your PayPal information as requested below.

      Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
      Full name:
      Firm Price:
      Address for pick up:

      Many Thanks (NO NAME OR CONTACT INFO)

      FOLLOWED BY AN EMAIL FROM HER “HUSBAND”…
      I appreciate your detailed response to my questions. The price is okay! I’m just asking about it to make sure it’s in good condition cause I’m buying it as a surprise, I’m presently in Army Air Defense Command Post, Fort bliss El paso Texas and have been in the base for some time and due to my new job. I won’t be able to come for it, I will have a pickup come for it on my behalf, so I request this transaction be done via PayPal and the PayPal charges are on me. PayPal is very safe and I have access to my funds there, that’s the only reason why PayPal is the only payment option. I am sincere with you and I want you to be honest with me as well. Do you have a verified PayPal account? If so kindly send me a money request at sgt.rickywyoung001@outlook.com so I can make payment.
      I KNEW IT WAS A SCAM BECAUSE…
      No phone number to call them back on, emails had no closing name or contact info, they are willing to buy a $29,000 vehicle site unseen, and it appears the two are both willing to buy it, wow how I got so lucky after having my truck posted for one hour. After her supposed husband also emailed me pretending to be in the service and no access to anything except paypal, I knew it was a scam. I served many years in the service and I know if they have access to email, they have access to other bank accounts. Banks are great at working with service members while deployed, which the husband is in Texas so it doesn’t make sense anyways. The fact they are disrespecting service members pisses me off that much more. The “couple” refused to call me, so I discontinued email correspondences. Beware of Mary and Ricky!!!

      Reply
    • Kay-El
      Kay-El says:

      Now it’s Bruce Marcus at (858) 537-4866. Here’s the email:
      Thank you for getting back to me,can you assure me that i will not be disappointed if i buy this vehicle as a Birthday gift for my Dad? as I’m ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I’m software engineer in Hewlett Packard,(HP) and a contract staff so i cant handle this in person.My only means of payment is PayPal,its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount.If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up.I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? as the day is fast approaching. I have a mover that will come for the pick up once payment clears in your account and he will handle the title for me.I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

      Your PayPal e-Mail Address :
      Your last asking price:
      Your Zip code for pickup:
      Your Cell phone #:

      Thank you
      Marc

      Reply
    • Rob
      Rob says:

      Same here, got a VA phone number and asked to see pic of engine. Never heard of that before. Sounded fishy. Just blocking them.

      If people would put as much time into working as they do into scams, this country would be a better place.

      Reply
    • Mimi Roa
      Mimi Roa says:

      Same scam! Thanks for posts – I responded and he said ok I’ll wait for your PayPal account

      Thank you for getting back to me with the pics my questions are,

      When was the last time you serviced it?

      Do you have the extra key ?

      Do you have extra tire?

      How much is your last king price?

      The reason why am asking all this is because I’m ready to proceed with the purchase, though i cant pay cash in person due to my schedule, but ill pay using my PayPal account, and ill pay the paypal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount. If you don’t have a paypal account,its pretty easy to open one,Just log on to http://www.paypal.com and sign up, its safe and secured for online purchase, and I have a mover that will come for the pick up after you withdraw fund from paypal into your bank account and he will come with purchase agreement you need to sign & he will handle all the paper work for me. I look forward to hear from you with the details below.

      Your full name as it is on your paypal account:

      Phone number linked with your paypal account:

      Email address linked with your paypal account:

      Your last asking price:

      I will process the payment as soon as you reply with answers to my question above and required details below.

      Zack

      Reply
    • Mikayla
      Mikayla says:

      They’re now posing as “Rose Cassidy” – be aware of this person and do not fall for the scam!

      Here’s what they sent me:

      “Am Rose Cassidy Kate and i thank you for getting back to me.Can you assure me that it’s in good state and i will not be disappointed with it.I’m ready to pay your asking price and to be honest, i wanted to buy this for my Father and i want it to be a surprise gift for him, but the issue is i am an oceanographer and i do have a contract to go for which starts tomorrow and am on my way right now.The contract is strictly no call due to the lack of reception on the sea area. But I’m able to access email anytime as we will make use of laptop and also i can text you any time so my only quickest payment option is PayPal/ as i can send money via PayPal anytime.Since I’m requesting this transaction to be done via PayPal, i will be responsible for all the PayPal fee/charges on this transaction and if you don’t have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy, safe and secured to open one. Just log on to http://www.PayPal.com. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? I have a mover that will come for it once payment clears and they will be handling the title for me. So i look forward to hear from you soon.”

      Reply
      • mshames
        mshames says:

        Thank you, Mikayla. If anyone else crosses paths with “Rose Cassidy”, please let us know. Once light is shown upon these vermin, they scamper back into the darkness.

        Reply
      • Ronald
        Ronald says:

        Thank you Mikayla, I had suspicions because the scammer asked to pay through paypal but once i google searched Rose Cassidy I confirmed my suspicions.I am so grateful to this autotrader community for exposing this scamming organization!

        Reply

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